Talking with Helen Buley: Health & Energy Coach

Today we spoke with Helen Buley. Helen is one of the most sought after Health & Energy Coaches in the UK. In our chat, we explore Helen's expertise and personal journey with how a Vegan diet and lifestyle has alleviated pain and suffering in her life. https://www.youroptimumhealth.co.uk/

This series features conversations I conducted with individuals who have dedicated their work and lives to Vegan research, businesses, art, and society. This podcast series is hosted by Patricia Kathleen and Wilde Agency Media.

 

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[00:00:10] Hi, I'm Patricia. And this is Investigating Vigen Life with Patricia Kathleen. This series features interviews and conversations I conduct with experts from food and fashion to tech and agriculture, from medicine and science to health and humanitarian arenas. Our inquiry is an effort to examine the variety of industries and lifestyle tenants in the world of Vigen life. To that end, we will cover topics that have revealed themselves as common and integral when exploring veganism. The dialog captured here is part of our ongoing effort to host transparent and honest rhetoric. For those of you who like myself, find great value in hearing the expertise and opinions of individuals who have dedicated their work and lives to their ideals, you can find information about myself and my podcast at Patricia Kathleen dot com. Welcome to investigating Vigen Life. Now let's start the conversation.

 

[00:01:14] Hi, everyone. Welcome back. I am your host, Patricia. And today I'm sitting down with Helen Bewley. Helen is a health and energy coach. You can contact her on her Web site w w w dot your optimum health doc code UK. Welcome, Helen.

 

[00:01:31] Hi. Hi. To be here.

 

[00:01:34] It's good to have you. I'm excited to be speaking with you.

 

[00:01:37] I'm going to read a quick bio on Helen before I start peppering her with questions. But prior to that, I'll offer everyone listening a roadmap of today's podcast. You can kind of follow the trajectory as we crawl through it. I will first look at Helen's academic and professional background and then I'll turn my attention towards her Vigen story and some of her journey therein as I know that a lot of her business endeavors are based out of their own personal testimony. Then we'll look at current endeavors that Helen has going on projects and programs, namely the 21 Days to better health and energy that she's currently working on. And then we'll look forward to the future and talk about some of the specifics about what she's doing, as well as the scene of what her perception is as the Vigen life and the Vigen seen not just in the UK, but any other areas in this world that she's kind of tried to do to a quick Bille on Helen. Helen is one of the most sought after health and energy coaches in the UK. She helps spiritual men and women to move away from feeling stuck and lacking in energy to feeling fully empowered in-flow and full of energy, using a wide array of tools and techniques, including powerful coaching, healing and breath work and nutritional therapy. She is the perfect blend of love and challenge and regularly goes on deep coaching and transformational adventures with her clients in nature. Her own journey of health to wellness over the past 10 years will inspire you as she struggled with digestive issues, anxiety and many other challenges, but is now living the life of energy and vitality she never imagined possible. Helen is now on a mission to help one million people to transform their level of health and vitality by the year 2030. Through her coaching programs and up and coming festival and her signature 21 days to Better Health and Energy program. So, Helen, I'm really excited to climb into all of your different programs. It sounds like you're kind of prolific on your organizational front and how you really come out helping people. But before we get into that, can you draw us a platform of what your educational life and professional background was prior to coming to where you're at?

 

[00:03:43] Absolutely. So if you really want to go all the way back to when I went to university, actually study something completely different to what I'm doing right now. And that is I was studying sociology and criminology. So I was really interested in looking at the kind of behavioral patterns of society. And and even though that still interests me, particularly with my business and the vegan aspects, I actually actually decided to do it more exploring. And can you hear me? Yes, absolutely. I decided to do loads of exploring and go traveling. And my biggest journey or biggest life lessons were literally seeking out adventure around the world. And that's kind of where it all began for me, because I opened up a whole new world and a whole new understanding of different cultures and different lifestyles and different opportunities of the ability to actually go and live your life. And when I came back to the UK, I was so frustrated. I'm like lost because everyone was stuck in this kind of like go, go, go mindset like a to five, if not longer. And constantly in this rat race and always actually like not able to deal with that. So it could be honest. That was that's where it all started. And I start I realized, having been traveling, that there were many issues that I hadn't addressed. And I noticed how they were just they were continuous and prominent. When my digestion and all sorts of things with my anxiety and having been traveling, I think it woke me to actually the kind of holistic view of life. And it made me think that's actually something that I can do about my health. And I didn't I didn't that didn't click initially because I was kind of caught up in this world here in the UK. And I went exploring. I was like, well, why didn't I explore my own health or my own issues and my digestion and my anxiety and my acid reflux, which were, you know, not completely taking my life, but they were really like niggling at me, you know, like getting a hammer to, like, slow down every time. I was just like, there, just not go.

 

[00:06:09] I didn't know it really did. Those grow. Read on your bio, too, on your Web site. I really like your ear. Candid kind of history of your health. Did this grow throughout your young adulthood or were these with you from childhood?

 

[00:06:23] Can you kind of indulge a little bit further on to how polite you were? Did they keep you up at night? Like, what kind of level of intensity were you feeling? Because you did say that you had acid reflux and gut issues, digestive problems. Can you kind of speak a little bit more to that?

 

[00:06:40] Sure.

 

[00:06:42] You know, it's really hard to actually pinpoint when exactly it started because it kind of applies into one. But what I can tell you is that when I was at university, I had really bad skin and I had the perfect scheme and I was 18. It was everyone was like, how is your skin so amazing? And I was like, oh. And I just obviously got away with the no spots thing. Puberty served me well. And then as soon as I got to university, all of a sudden my broke out in sports and I was anxious all the time. And I was stressed and kind of. It was kind of from then naturally that all of these issues started to happen.

 

[00:07:19] And so my digestion was was like frustrating because I tried to what I tried to really I couldn't really understand why I was suffering from bloating. And it's really embarrassing.

 

[00:07:34] Gasol a time and like constant pain and constant just like discomfort. And the thing that was the worst me was my reflux.

 

[00:07:44] And I think actually now I'm just thinking back. Sorry. This is like thinking out loud. My acid reflux started when I was 16. I remember I had my first alcoholic beverage of Baileys and I had a whole pint. This is really embarrassing and really like, really hot. Like, you know, many people might do that now, but I thought the thought of me doing that now, I'm just so cool myself. Well, I had a whole pint of babies. You know, when you're 60 and you just kind of do it your friends day. And the next day I woke up and my throat was just burning and I was thinking, well, is this I'm going to die? Yeah.

 

[00:08:28] The toilet just like, oh, I don't know what to do. All my friends were still asleep in The Hangover and I was just that only to be sick, but I couldn't be sick and just put up with it. And that's where it began. Thank you for remembering how it began. And it was just prominent from my 20 D. It kind of like fluctuated. So it came back in and it went and it came back in and it went. I went see a doctor and he gave me antacid tablets, which are one of the most prescribed medications in the world, by the way, I think he most describes. And that's just saying something. And so I was like, I'm taking these habits. Cool that she's helping. Out got drinking. And I was get like acid reflux and then I'd take my tablets and then I'd like go through a phase and take my tablets. And then I didn't get it when I was drinking and having my good lungs at present when I met. So I didn't get the acid reflux.

 

[00:09:24] And then I just thought to go because my whole life. Why am I always complex? This is just crazy.

 

[00:09:32] And so call me what your question is, but this is it. I mean, I kind of was wondering the intersection of how it affected, you know, as as youth, we kind of endure more than, you know, one would in adulthood.

 

[00:09:45] And so things can be inhibiting one's life for a long period of time in your 20s before you actually acknowledge it. You know, if it's not killing you or preventing you from going out and having a pint, you know, you're going to just continue doing things. And so it sounds like you are tolerating it until it kind of hit you. Exactly. You know, you'd be on medication for the rest of your life if you wanted to socially engage as well. So I wasn't at that time that you started to realize that you had. It sounds like perhaps even an allergy. I don't know. To lactose or milk or something like that. Is that what started your vegan journey? Did you start reading into what was affecting you personally and then come upon like a vegan lifestyle?

 

[00:10:23] Good question. So it all started with I don't remember when it was, but I had a light bulb moment one day and I just thought. I don't be a medication. I know what it was.

 

[00:10:35] I went to see the doctor again because I was having all these issues and it was like, oh, we will prescribe you with antacids. MOTSYK Like I was prescribed with them like six years ago. I want to be on them again. And then this light bulb just went off in my head. But I can find the root cause here. There's something causing my reflux. It's got to be something causing it because sometimes I get it, sometimes I don't.

 

[00:10:58] And that opened up a whole load of questions for me. And I had tried the little intervals of like cutting out dairy and cutting out Lee and like in a space of two weeks. But knowing what I know now, that's just not enough time to really give your body the time to heal and move away from what it was struggling with in the past. So I decided to just ask questions. And actually I had a friend, too, and he was doing a 30 days plan, which was a vague plan. And I was like today, well, I'm gonna do this and I'm going to see if it makes a difference because I think it might be dairy. So it's going to eliminate dairy anyway. And there was no wheat in the plan, too. So I was like, well, you know, I'll just do that and I'll see if it's the two together to see how I go. And then after 30 days, the first two weeks, I was like, oh, not feeling great.

 

[00:11:56] But then after after then I just started to feel like like something had lifted. And then 30 days pass. And I thought. I don't want to stop this. I don't want to keep continuing this. I feel so good. And that's kind of how it started for me because I kind of accidentally fell into it. And then.

 

[00:12:19] And then the word feel good, like I didn't I don't really know what that meant. I didn't I didn't really understand it. But then all of a sudden I realized I was technically vegan because I wasn't having any animal products. And two and a half months later, I remember I went to my auntie's house and she was setting up like my family had had been eating bacon and they got funny about it. Sure, you have that story, too. And then I had she stepped up some food. Not like this. A tree, nothing I can eat. Although there was some peas and potatoes. That's fine. But like, I was just like, OK, well, this chicken picks up, which. And I just thought, what a smell it. And I just took a bite. And I swear to God, it was the most. Just life changing experience. And I just got this like someone smacked me in the face with a brick or something, and I was like, I can physically taste an animal and I can smell it. Just it literally I thought was gonna be sick. I got goose bumps now just thinking about this and it just clicked.

 

[00:13:28] And I was like, why to be believe animals? Why? And then a dog walked past nose like.

 

[00:13:35] Is it just all these things that go off in my head and that was the beginning of my big journey and I started to really dig deeper and explore and really understand what veganism is and what the impact is on the animals. And I didn't know the impact that was happening that was happening in the world in terms of the environment. And I was so upset. I literally spent the next year in an emotional state. In fact, that year I started studying, but I was so depressed and so just frustrated that no one was understanding me. I was the first person of all my friends or my family that decided to have no animal products. I had one friend who was a vegetarian, but even she was saying like, I need you need calcium, you know, you need calcium from milk. And I felt so alone and so upset and frustrated. And it was a really hard time for me. I don't say that I feel sympathy all. But I just it helped me put into perspective what people go through when they have a belief about something, when they have a passion or an insight into what's good to do in the world. When so many other people don't have the same view. And it was like so I felt so alone. And then I was like, what can I do about it? So I went to study I to reach out to people. And actually on that year's the first year's journey, I found an addiction to sugar, which I think a lot of Eagen beginners, what it's like. First person begins have. Right. So, you know, when you're sugar, you kind of. And it's like a cycle because you you feel sad and upset and emotional and you go to the sugar. And then that's that makes you feel worse. I've actually done some tests into my own blood sugar levels and how high they went when I was having sugar for various reasons. And I couldn't believe the results that came out. And I could then see that that was impacting my anxiety. For anyone watching, listening, sugar and anxiety. So carbonated, I didn't understand. I didn't realize how much of an impact sugar had to my anxiety levels. And it wasn't until I started really reduce my sugar. The unfelt the difference. I thought, oh my God, I feel so much better in my health, my well-being, my confidence. I would get random spouts of anxiety for no reason because I was indulging in all this sugar. But it's not an easy situation to get out of because it's you know, it gives you a don't mean it in your brain. It's very addictive and it takes a lot of discipline to reduce that. So hopefully that makes sense. And then I went on to study and it kind of my study began then and then I realized I need to help it with this. I want to share my story and I want to take my passion and put that into a business. And that's that's where I am now.

 

[00:16:47] Absolutely. I'm curious when you. I don't know you. We were talking off the record before we started podcasting. I don't know what the UK scene is.

 

[00:16:56] I do know a lot about other European countries that I frequent a lot, but I don't know. And I'm not sure what year it was that you, you know, kind of put down the chicken at your auntie's house and said, this is awful. But was it? Did you have a group of people you could, you know, kind of embark on or was it a long journey? I know it it's always a long journey. Even now, you know that we have these incredible films and people kind of coming over to the Viking lifestyle for a plethora of reasons. But it is and I do want to touch on what you said, which was, you know, this kind of maverick moment where it just seems like it's all you're just all alone. Questioning food and food is is medicine and it's an addiction. And anytime you come into telling any. But I've never made people more quickly anger than by telling them that I'm a vegan. You know, people I don't know people who who could possibly love me if they gave me a chance, you know. But these concepts of like you're challenging their family, their identity, their livelihood, their addiction, their medicine, all of these different things. And so it's such a heated and I don't think that people realize that out the gate to be vegan is it requires such a strength and it's usually such an isolating journey, at least in the beginning. It's interesting that year began like that. But as far as the UK is concerned, when you first started kind of venturing into veganism, can you can you give us a year ish timeframe? And also, what was the community like at that time that hasn't grown since then?

 

[00:18:25] I was. It was a twenty five twenty six.

 

[00:18:30] So is that 2015? Yeah, and veganism is hard to tell because I actually didn't help myself because I was actually hiding for a lot of the maybe the first six months I was hiding. So I was like actually in like a stuck mentality. And I think that's why I'm really passionate about helping people get out of that kind of stuck mentality. But now but I was in a stuck mentality. I don't really know what to do. And I had to turn to. And I just hated my food. I did hate life. I've always been quite positive. But I just there was just this phase where I just thought, what is going on in the world, you know? And I feel powerless and I don't know what to do about it. And, you know, you could go through that stage so well at the time. The only thing I knew about was there was a festival called Veggie Fest and it was being held. There's actually like the leaps and bounds the UK has come on now in terms of veganism and like products available and festivals and groups and all sorts. It's amazing. But then it was I mean, it was probably more than I could see at the time. I was having a very narrow mind with it because of my location. But I did travel to Bristol, which is not far, maybe two and a half hours for me to go to a festival there. The very first vegan festival. And I'm so relieved, so relieved. And I met people for the first time. I went to talks. I tried food. I just I felt positive for the first time in my journey because I realized I was on my own. And so if any one of you is making a transition and fills in the oh, just go and meet people and chat and join a community, because you'd actually known. No, so many people out there going through the same experience without you maybe even realizing. And the Internet is obviously great for that now because you can see on Facebook, live communities and groups. And then I joined the Vegan Reading Group, which is where I live. And so it kind of evolved from that. And then I made friends and then they invited me to staff. And and it was kind of evolving. And then when I joined my course, I made friends there and I took another step along the line. And it was yeah, it kind of started there.

 

[00:20:54] Built up. Yeah. And I think it has been I think you're right particularly I always equate it and I'm not sure if it's just in the United States where I began my vegan story or anything else.

 

[00:21:04] But I feel like it was with the advent of social media largely around me, you know, vegan, and there was still a very kind of old school vegan. And I captured a lot in food. But vegan for me is is an entire universe. Since that this podcast series, you know, there's vegan fashion. There is I mean, Stella McCartney. But there's you know, there's a lot of different powerful vegan players globaly that make up the universe. However, in food, that's how I kind of identify the old versus the new. And you had like Buddhist monks and hippies and then, you know, and then people who were just kind of getting into it because they didn't want to live that lifestyle. And it didn't really change for me until right around when you came into it in 2014, 2015. The advent of social media, again, groups vege fast all over the world, different veg fest, people getting together. But it really has been kind of the renaissance, I think, of the movement, which is why I think it's exciting to talk about it now because we're all still in a time moment when we can think back. And, you know, we we felt alone like there just weren't a lot of people talking about it. If they were, it was hard to identify. I remember trying to talk to parents who, you know, weren't thinking that being vegan was abusive. It was just it was a crazy time period. And now there's like mommy groups for it, you know, and all sorts of things that I'm climbing into. Now, what you're doing with your story, because it sounds like you your impetus for your career and what you're doing right now is based on this, you know, this personal history you have with health and how that's attached to eating a vegan diet and lifestyle. Can you kind of clemants through. So, you know, we're going to hit your Web site and your optimum health code UK and you have some services, you have background information, and then you also have this new program, 21 days. I don't know if it's new. I think it's starting soon, but 21 days to better health and energy. Can you kind of walk us through some of that?

 

[00:22:57] Yeah, sure. Okay, so where do I begin? I when I was studying and when I was going through my own health journey, I actually use myself as an experiment, to be honest.

 

[00:23:11] And the reason why I'm so passionate about where I am now is because I got myself through lots of different obstacles. And not only was I in my health, it was also in my confidence. And I could see all sorts of patterns like I opened up more spiritually. I can't believe how much of an impact it's had on my well-being in that sense, but also my confidence levels have just been so profound.

 

[00:23:38] Just because I have found that empowerment in choice over what I mean thing and empowerment in the fact that it's my body and I'm now in control of what I'm putting in my body. But along the way I realized and I think that many people can relate to this. You are in the same industry and coaching and being with clients that. It's all well and good having the perfect diet, which I have learnt is just the most amazing thing for MUNITY, optimal health. Everything. Alertness, everything. But it's also the fact that people if they are experiencing. If people are experts, including myself, that went for this any kind of emotional trauma from their childhood or emotional any kind of emotional journey. Food is a really good representation of their relationship to themselves and how they are dealing with their emotions.

 

[00:24:38] So for me, it started off with the nutritional therapy and I looked I'd still do this for my clients. I'll look at the root cause. Very often we'll give we'll be we be told, take a pill for your headache or have an empty pasta tablet for your acid reflux. But what I like to do is actually not to work with people and look at what what's going on with them at the moment and what's actually causing them to feel that way or to have the health condition that they have. So because my history and my education around the root cause of the root cause, I I always, always go into that with my clients.

 

[00:25:16] But the emotional side is another level.

 

[00:25:21] And I saw that and I experienced it myself. And what I really love is the is that it stops with food, but then it becomes confidence, empowerment and really powerful coaching and healing, which is just it just brings me so much joy. And again, along the way, I've opened up spiritually and I've I mean, many people will laugh at me. So I'll go and hungry or I'll go in like bare feet on the ground, on the grass. I'm skeptical. And so I'm an F sign and that just feels great to me. So I would go and grab my feet and I'll go hug tree. And I feel that energy more than ever before. And I I'm just a white skin so that there's a life out here to live. I don't have to be like stuck in a trap of bad health, bad job, feeling shit about myself. I don't want to be stuck in that trap and I don't want other people to be there. So that's where the kind of coaching, the the powerful healing, very powerful coaching and healing comes in, because I don't want people to be stuck like I was in this mentality of, oh, this is all. I'm just not over this forever. You know, I mean, and I think I'm one of those people I like to just, like, throw myself into all sorts of things so my coaching can sometimes be a bit spontaneous. But I laugh at my kids. It's very personal to the person I'm working with. And we kind of just I just work with what's right for them. And that's the that that leads me up to the 21 days to Better Health and Energy program. I'm gonna be running on May the 17th. And the reason why I wanted to bring this in. Currently is because I've spoken and seen many people in lockdown who are turning into couch potatoes. They feel shit about themselves. They are eating emotionally. They are snacking on food that they didn't even realize they had in a house. And also this foods unavailable. So those people are just kind of smacking them wherever they go. But the deep rooted thing is the deep rooted issue on the record is usually around how we're dealing with our emotions. So what I want to do is bring together a community of people who really want to feel that energy on their health and get themselves out of this kind of rut of slouching around, being stuck, not feeling like they can get anywhere. And I know people who are working from home who who are in the same situation, and they're actually not mentally able to get on with the work because that they are emotionally buckling. So that's why I wanted to bring this in now more than ever, because people are already stuck and they're not really sure what to do. So what want to create a community and a group scenario where I can coach people and bring in new habits and get them from where they announce it, feeling like the best version of themselves, the most empowered and energized version of themselves. They didn't even know it was possible.

 

[00:28:27] So is the is the format going to be based on challenges? Is it is it does it incorporate diet, exercise?

 

[00:28:34] Is it based on how did you come together with all of the components and what kind of components have you addressed in it?

 

[00:28:40] Yeah. So I I split into three sections. First is around vulnerability and space programs to be a case of really trusting.

 

[00:28:54] If you think this is the right thing, you got just trust in and be open to being honest with yourself and being honest. You perhaps haven't met before, but knowing that you're in a safe space and a loving space, because that's the space I want to create. So the first section is being venerable and actually understanding what is going on with you. Because it's easy to just forget or just not recognize that and just ignore it and push it to the side. It's really important to recognize that from ability and open up and share as a group and share as a community and relate to people and see that you're not on your own. And then the second thing I wanted to work on was limiting self-belief. So understanding what's actually going your mind, what's going on in your world and how you can move forward and then actually implementing those things. Implementing those. But implementing new found habits. So healthy a habit. So I'll be talking about setting recipes. And just certain foods you can bring in for better immunity to lower the inflammation. And that comes down to plant-based Foods always because they are the lowest inflammation foods in the body. And generally the S.O.B doing morning and evening lives. And in the morning I want to do is I want to bring people to the 21 day thing is because of the habit. So 20 that the theory is that 21 days will build new habit. I'm convinced it's more than that, but I'm going to stick with 21 days. So I think that's as much. And then I go, but I want to help people start the day in the right way with meditation, with gratitude, with actually moving a body a little bit and just doing some breathing, you know, and and I want it to be quite flexible where people can come and go as they please. But also remember that there is an element of responsibility. And if you want to take control of your life, then and you want to commit to it. I would say 37 and in the evenings get into a habit of just coming out with one thing. One a win that you've had for the day. And so habits like that just get you thinking differently, acting differently, choosing different foods, recognizing what's going on with you. Sorts.

 

[00:31:04] And so that's kind of I don't know if that makes sense, but it does, especially right now during the quarantine. I think you're right. I think that you've hit the nail on the head.

 

[00:31:12] I don't know of anyone from, you know, people who are running countries all the way down to people just trying to run themselves that don't have this kind of new relationship and miscommunication with their lifestyle, regardless of how regimented or anything else. You know, this this constant like renegotiation when you're self-governed at home, you know, is it's daunting for a lot of people. And so I think to do engage in something like this where you really you unite with a new form of community and a new goal and a new way of looking at things, at very least, we'll shake things up. Right. Which is a lot of times what we need.

 

[00:31:49] One hundred percent. And you're right. This is something that we've none of us have ever experienced ever before in our lives. And it's bringing up fear and it's bringing up this these vulnerable feelings. It's bringing up like a new skill of resilience and adapting, which is unfamiliar for most of us. And so recognize working through those things, recognizing them and coming out the other side with with better habits and actually understanding you're not on your right is such an amazing leap to go through. And what I wanted to bring in at the end as well is physical stuff. So getting outdoors on I don't know whether to do this yet, but I have a really good friends who will literally jump ponzu and she'll do cold showers at people in their bikinis and she jumps in. And I'm like, I'm gonna start doing this because this is just amazing. So I'm thinking about doing some of that, too, but I'm not sure yet.

 

[00:32:48] Yeah. You and Gwyneth Paltrow write the new Goop series has her with the The Ice Guide a study. It's my newest. It's awesome, too.

 

[00:32:58] Oh, yes.

 

[00:33:00] Yeah, I'm I'm obsessed. I don't know how I haven't heard about it sooner. I'm down. I don't care if half of it's not going to work or half of it's not true. I think it sounds exciting and and scary and. Yeah. Cold showers are where it starts. You know, for those of us near bodies of water and when the quarantine's lifted, jumping in the ocean as well, you can get a little finicky around cold water, you know? And our perception of just like I'm getting in there grows with age. You know, as a child, I would jump into a half frozen lake. But now I if it's below 70 degrees, I'm like, no, no, it's it's freezing. But I believe in it. I think that that kind of. And again, it's that shocking of the system. I think it's an awesome thing for you to implement in this 21 day kind of shock of the system that you're encouraging people to do. Anyway, we're almost out of time. But I wanted to ask you, I always like to end, particularly with this particular podcast series looking ahead at Vigen life, because you have this history with it in the UK and everywhere that you've. Travel, too. I'm wondering, what do you see where the future and this has changed significantly since that pandemic hit. But where do you see the future of the Vigen scene heading towards the U.K.? You can you surmise or speculate where you think it's going to be headed in the next three years? And how will you engage with that?

 

[00:34:21] Mm hmm. You know what? I thought about this so much.

 

[00:34:25] And I think it's a really difficult question to answer, because my perspective, what's going on is based on the stories are being fed by the media, which I don't always agree with the the conversations I have with people, the the access to information I have on social media, which, you know, it is to an extent controlled and limited and based on algorithms. And also in my kind of vegan world, all of my hashtags and all of my so for example, on my Instagram account, all of my friends and not all of them, but a lot of them are vegan. And I see and I and I share and follow vegan communities. So in my eyes, it it looks like, yes, the whole world is understanding and they go vegan because that's my perspective. So in all honesty, I don't really know the answer to that, but I do from a spiritual point of view. I believe there's a big shift going on at the moment. I really do. And I think that I think that more normal people are starting to. But just little things like people who I wouldn't even wouldn't have even expected to go vegan or to open up to, particularly with documentaries like not what the health that was a good one, but that was not game changes. Everyone who has time big and recently. Have you seen it?

 

[00:35:54] Yes. Yeah, I get the converter. That's it? Yes. Some of the most unlikely vegans I've ever met.

 

[00:36:01] You know, I usually I'm I watch the film and I'm like, well, I know why now. And it's mostly men, so. So, yeah, that's the answer to your question.

 

[00:36:10] I feel positive around this movement. And I feel like, you know, I feel like there's there's definitely good that's gonna come through this. This transition of what we're going through right now. I do have a lot of hope for that. I do know that it does fuel me to really get out pemble, because I know that in the work that I'm doing, I'm I'm coming at it from a different perspective and I'm allowing people to feel empowered to make the right choices. But educating them that, you know, these foods are going to bring you more vitality and bring you all of perhaps what you've been looking for. And I think that's what fuels made her more, because it makes me want to get out there more and just share my passion and hope that that impacts so many more people than I expected from the beginning. And that has just a little effect on the movement of the planet. But I do think that more and more people are starting to you know, people are getting on the gardens more who have gardens and getting their hands on the soil and just connecting to nature nightly. But just naturally in itself, that's that's surely that's going to set of questions in their minds. I didn't know. Yes.

 

[00:37:24] I think it well, and I think you're right.

 

[00:37:26] I don't think it's cavalier or callous to say that, you know, even the pandemic is having people question health, the future of the planet. You know, all of those things are largely what led me to some of the greatest things that I guide my life by, you know, veganism just being one of them. And so and it's a very unifying factor. We're all, you know, susceptible to Koven, 19. No one's in me like that kind of a thing. It's like a unifying humanitarian issue, which I think that being vegan is as well. And I think it leads to people to different conversations and dialog and discussions. Always good. You know, you should keep the conversation going. I completely agree with you 100 percent. Thank you so much for speaking. Meet with me today. Helen, I really appreciate all of your information and your time. And and for everyone listening as you can get on her Web site, w w w dot your optimum health that Kodak UK. I'm assuming it's not just the Brits that can jump on your 21 day adventure with you, everyone else as well.

 

[00:38:30] Everyone else is. Yep. Probably best to also follow me on my Instagram because I've got a link on my profile which gives you the links to all of my information, all of my stuff. So what is your handle? So it's Bewley spelt B you l e y underscore H-B.

 

[00:38:48] Perfect.

 

[00:38:50] Everyone follow. Jump on Instagram. Jump on her Web site.

 

[00:38:54] And I'm at very least like follow what she's doing because I can't I can't wait to find out more about, you know, what how this transitions and how goes over the next year. You know, these kinds of programs tend to lead onto way, Helen. And I'm excited, too, to find out. But thank you once again. I really appreciate your time.

 

[00:39:11] Oh, thank you. It's been a pleasure. Thanks for having me.

 

[00:39:14] Absolutely. For everyone listening one more time, we've been speaking with Helen Bewley. She's a health and energy coach. You can contact her at w w w dot your optimum health dot co dot UK.

 

[00:39:27] Thank you for giving us your time today. And until we speak again next time, remember to eat. Well, be safe and remember to always back yourself. Sainte.